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Butch Porter's avatar

I would like to see what it would look like to show it literally three dimensionally as opposed to as a triangle. There could be more connections there...

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Robert J Jesionowski's avatar

OK. In order to convert the triangle to a four-sided pyramid, we would need another axis of tension. For instance, one axis is individualism v. collectivism, what would be the opposites that define this axis?

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Butch Porter's avatar

was thinking more of a cube than a pyramid... :)

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EmJay Cha'll's avatar

What a beautiful and alien thought for most western analytical thinking. 👏👏

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Robert Jeffery's avatar

No one wants to be associated with dirt. If “I” can throw dirt on to “you” and publicly vilify “you” as being dirty, “I” have proven that “I” am a better person than”you.” As you say, and probably one of the best points made here, people don’t understand the true meanings if the terms they use. I suspect that many deliberately “misunderstand” and misuse the terms. With that said, whether a X, Y graph, a three sided chart, or some other calculus vector system is employed, the true definition and weight of these ideologies need to be fixed, immutable, and clearly understood by all parties. Until then, we are going to see politics reduced to petty people shouting “I know you are but what am I?”

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Robert J Jesionowski's avatar

I agree with much of what you say, and thank you. Still my point stands, the bottom left of the political compass makes no sense. A state run/controlled economy demands the state and is collectivist by its very nature. Individualist, libertarian thought is antithetical to a state run collectivist economy

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Robert J Jesionowski's avatar

One more thing, the compass plot up above shows Reagan as more authoritarian than Mao, Mugabe or Trotsky. To be blunt, that is pure hokum.

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EmJay Cha'll's avatar

Excellent and poignant perspective. I certainly struggle with where others align me due to criticisms I raise in the current party climate. If we cannot shift our foundation for analysis, we cannot curate change in perspective. I believe this is the basis of a great conversation. Thank you!

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